How and When to Reopen your Claim
A L&I claim may be reopened within 7 years from the date the first closing order becomes final, for full benefits. That means, time loss, medical benefits, vocational services, disability awards, all benefits that are available under the law. If it has been more than 7 years since the claim was first closed, the claim may be reopened for medical benefits only. The Director of the Department has discretion to provide full benefits in certain circumstances in these ‘over 7’ reopenings.
Keep in mind, the time limit is 7 years from first claim closure, not the date of injury, not the date you returned to work, not the date the final installment of any PPD was paid. If a closing order was protested or appealed, and ultimately set aside, that is NOT the first claim closure. You are looking for the first final claim closing order. That is the start of the 7 year clock.
In a nutshell, a claim will be reopened only where there is medical evidence, based on objective medical findings, that the industrially related condition has worsened, or become aggravated, since the claim was closed. Your own subjective descriptions of increased pain, loss of function, or inability to work are not enough. A claim can not be reopened solely for vocational services. The Department is looking for increases in objectively measurable findings. Worsening in measures of atrophy, nerve damage, degenerative changes, muscle wasting, range of motion, sensation. Worsening which is evident on MRI, CT scan, EMG. I tell clients, we are looking for concrete, objectively measurable changes in their work related condition.
Reopening requests, or aggravation applications as they are sometimes called, should be forwarded directly to the Department, even if your employer was self-insured. There is an actual form, which you can get here:
http://www.lni.wa.gov/FormPub/Detail.asp?DocID=1591
However, an informal written requests, with or without supporting medical information, will start the ball rolling. If there is such an informal request, the Department will forward you the reopening application to complete. There is a portion of the form for you and a section for your medical provider to complete.
You can go to any medical provider to complete a reopening application. If you had a good relationship with the physician who treated you while your claim was open, that is a great place to start. Your primary care provider is ok, an appropriate specialist may be even better. If you have a copy of the closing medical report, take it with you. This will help the physician in comparing your current findings on exam to those at the time your claim was closed. The medical provider will be paid by the Department for performing the exam and completing the paperwork, whether the claim is ultimately reopened or not. If the physician recommends a diagnostic study to complete the exam, the request should be forwarded to the Department along with the reopening application. The Department will approve many diagnostic procedures in order to gather all the medical information necessary to review the reopening application. Again, if the Department authorizes such a study, they will pay for it. The Department will likely schedule you for a medical exam, called an Independent Medical Exam, or IME. (We can discuss some other time whether there is anything ‘independent’ about these exams)
When in this process should you talk to an attorney? There is no hard and fast rule, although I tend to be in the ‘earlier is better’ camp. The Department will issue an Order either reopening the claim or denying the application. You can protest or appeal a denial, and an attorney will most definitely be helpful, if not indispensable. However, earlier involvement has its up side. An attorney with a good relationship with the Department can nudge a claims manager in the right direction, help make sure all necessary diagnostic studies have been done (on the Department’s nickel), help the attending physician articulate the objective findings which have worsened or respond coherently to an IME report. It is, of course, quicker and less expensive if your claim can be reopened without having to litigate the matter. Getting an attorney involved early in the process will only serve to make sure all possible avenues are being examined before the Order is issued.
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I am truly searching for direction. My claim seems to be stalled. Some of your information is giving me a much needed insight.
Thank You,
Marion
I slipped on wet floor at work. Tore shoulder rotor cuff and ligaments. Three months later lower back problems started.
L&I doctor would not suggest any tests at their costs. I have been to emergency 3 times. Now in process of independent exam. Spoke with claims manager who told I could go in for 12 additional shoulder sessions. They did pay for MRI but I believe will not work with me for back. What else can I do?
Unfortunately, there is one key piece to the puzzle which you did not mention. Does your attending physician believe the low back condition is related to the fall at work? At a very basic level, it does not matter what you or I believe. Without medical evidence of a causal relationship between your fall and your low back complaints the Department will not accept the diagnosis under the claim, and will not be responsible for treatment. If, on the other hand, your treating orthopedist will state that, on a more probable than not basis, the fall injured your back, or even aggravated a pre-existing condition, then we have something to work with. I would suggest a careful review of your chart notes or emergency room reports to look for any mention of back pain, stiffness or symptoms. When did this first show up in the medical records? Talk to your medical provider about the mechanism of your fall, how you landed, when the symptoms started, and how they progressed. All of this information is important for the medical provider to have in order to formulate an informed opinion on whether the condition diagnosed in your low back is causally related to your fall at work. Again, with medical evidence and testimony we have something to work with to help get the condition accepted under the claim and treatment authorized.
In 2005 I began having trouble with elbows, due to repeative lifting. A claim was eventually opened, but for a year my employee had me to countinue to do same job. After therapy failed to help, I then had elbow surgery by a general orthopedist. I didn’t recover well and an IME Dr. recommended a more involved operation and referred me to a Hand Surgeon. After that surgery my wrist became very painful and my hand surgeon sent a request to my claims manager for a bone scan and a MRI arthrogram on my wrist. These ended up being requested 2 different times and I would call and leave messages to check the progress. Nothing was ever approved and my claim was closed. I appealed and was finally granted a mediation hearing. It was agreed on that I should get the diagnostic tests done.(14 months of pain since the first request.) It turns out I have a tear in the cartiledge in my wrist with degenerative changes. I have a phone conference next week with the judge and my employers hired attorney.I still would like to get my claim reopened. There is surgery to correct this problem. This is my dominate extremity. I’m feeling like I need to get some support from an attorney. Should I wait to see what the attorney has to say then set up a meeting with someone from your office? I have a lot of paperwork that you might be interested in. P.S. My employer is privately insured.
With the information in hand from the recent diagnostics studies the employer’s attorney may be willing to agree to set aside the closing order and send the claim back to the Department for treatment and benefits. If they are not willing to do this, you should definitely contact an attorney for help. By the way, your rights are the same whether your employer is self-insured or not.
Hello, I injured my lower back, (2 herniated disc’s), in 2003 and spent 2 years dealing with L&I, doctors, therapists, specialists and even an accupuncturist. After a long, (2 year’s), and frustrating battle my claim was closed with a small settlement and me being declared with a permanent, partial disability of the injured area.
I have suffered with this since then and just recently re-injured the same discs to the point of seeking medical attention for the pain and lack of mobility.
Am I allowed to re-open this claim since it is an old injury rearing it’s ugly head?
And what are my rights as far as treatment goes? I am not seeking any type of compensation other than whatever medical treatment I may need. Also, I am no longer employed with the employer that this was filed under at the time of my injury as they “let” me go after the case was closed.(they were a privately insured school district)
thank you so much!
Teri
You can file an Application to reopen your claim, and if the claim is reopened you may receive both medical treatment and time loss, if appropriate. Although, I noticed you said you “reinjured” your back. If your condition was made worse by a new injury, this is a new claim –assuming you reinjured it at work. A Reopening Application is more designed to cover those situations where the condition has worsened over time, with no intervening event, accident, or injury.
my husband applied for ssdi in 2007 .
6/24/09 . he went to the ssi office today to see if he could followup and get ssdi now that he is 65 . they told him he was “all set” in 2007 they said they sent a 30 and 60 day letter and never got a reply . so, they said now there is nothing he can do.
he has not worked , he still is disabled . how come he cannot appeal , or re apply. ??????
what can we do
My hubby injured his knee at work and work cover closed the claim cuz my hubby found work elsewhere. We had scans etc done and there was a lot of fluid and swelling etc, but no one could operate. The swelling went down and the pain became bearable but just in the last week it has flared up in the same spots again and we just need some advice on what we can do. We just want our lives to go back to normal! Work cover QLD discust me, they said even if nick lost his leg, too bad soo sad deal with people are out there working with out arms too just be greatful! what a load of rubbish. Can anyone offer insight. beckelljess@hotmail.com
Hard to tell from the information provide – but my best advice would be to return to an orthopedist, get a full exam of the knee, and file an application to reopen the claim if there is an objective worsening of the work related condition. It may very well be that the condition is worsening over time, and is now in need of treatment.